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Martin Rowson on the row over gender and sexuality in the Church of England
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MuzzydeMontfort
12 July 2010 12:40AM
A gay friend of mine jokes that women are merely gay men who are so gay that they are in fact women. This seems to be the thinking of the Church: Women?! Way too gay. At least gay men are men.
LaquandaJones
12 July 2010 12:56AM
Nice..but I just don't know why a gay man would want to be a priest anyways...why join something that apparently tells you that your an abomination??
Its no wonder I grow more disallusioned with both religion and people by the day
MysticBear
12 July 2010 1:01AM
LOL
Here's Rowan Williams on shariah:
"Among the manifold anxieties that haunt the discussion of the place of Muslims in British society, one of the strongest, reinforced from time to time by the sensational reporting of opinion polls, is that Muslim communities in this country seek the freedom to live under sharia law. And what most people think they know of sharia is that it is repressive towards women and wedded to archaic and brutal physical punishments;…"
Repressive towards women? You think?
This is followed by pages of waffle about what Williams' thinks shariah law is – which bares no resemblance to shariah law as it is actually practised.
http://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/1575
He then goes on to say that some form of shariah law is "unavoidable".
Well, maybe now we know what he means. No women bishops, no gays.
LOL
OK,
I'm not being altogether serious. But does anyone actually expect such a patently confused and woolly thinker as Williams' to be coherent?
alab4ster
12 July 2010 1:09AM
I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken.
Oliver Cromwell, Letter to the general assembly of the Church of Scotland. (August 3, 1650)
I think what we have here is an unfortunate case of flatulence which will shortly lead to a voluntary evacuation (to the Catholic church).
I've always wondered what Christ's bowels might looked like. it's reassuring that Martin depicts them being as verdant as I always imagined...
smugtory
12 July 2010 1:34AM
Don't forget folks
Darwins a hoax
Bishopesses in frocks
Bigots without c**ks
JamieTWC1
12 July 2010 1:35AM
Delicious Martin, the excoriation of these punitive, bullying old fascists that you have managed to show here is quite delicious.
NietzscheOfTheNight
12 July 2010 2:35AM
There seems to be some sort of schism in Jesus' bowels. That's right, I said schism!
MalleusSacerdotum
12 July 2010 3:54AM
What can we say, Martin? Some people just love the bells 'n' smells. Others love the balls 'n' smalls.
annedemontmorency
12 July 2010 4:15AM
Weak and obvious.
I've seen more "excoriating" satire on the Anglican Church in "the Vicar of Dibley".
NietzscheOfTheNight
12 July 2010 5:37AM
annedemontmorency
So it isn't just that the cartoon makes a satirical point you don't agree with then?
Here's your enlightened opinion on the article head-lined "The Bible is an open book"
This article is the very definition of heresy........It has long been obvious that the collective leadership believes that it is possible to believe absolutely anything and still be an Anglican , which is much the same as believing nothing. Those who follow the old doctrine should split and leave the dregs to wither away.
It's upsetting when a cartoon mocks your antiquated opinions isn't it? Makes you want to throw your dummy out the pram...
RichardJC
12 July 2010 6:56AM
It's been asked in a few places why a gay person would want to join an organisation "that hates them". I'm not gay or anglican but I can guess. If you're part of your church community and you yourself believe in what you see as your religion, the loving side, if your congregation seem to support you as much as I expect any vicar would have gay or not, then maybe you would want to do your bit more.
fformat
12 July 2010 7:33AM
Excellent work, Martin!
We're talking about a slowly fading Institution, which is gradually splitting-up along political lines, like a clapped-out liner that has hit an iceberg.
Artemison
12 July 2010 7:51AM
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Megrez
12 July 2010 7:53AM
All men are equal, but some are more equal (and less bigoted) than others - so thinks the Church of England.
urbanegorrila
12 July 2010 7:53AM
I love the beyond madness hysteria. If synod members feel uncomfortable with such a depiction Martin is simply offering a mirror for them to see themselves as others see them.
It is all a great shame for, although I'm an atheist that has no time for Christian faith, cosmology or evangelism, I'm still a fan of the best of Christianity. Jesus, as reported in the New Testament was a pacifist, who treated women well, was prepared to associate with outcasts and stressed love as being important. He even advised people to pay their taxes. Very civilised indeed.
He even chose a woman to first tell people that he rose again from the dead. It is strange then that women are not allowed to tell the same tales, in an official capacity, by people who claim to be his devoted followers.
Those people are simply demonstrating how far they are from the ideal that the bloke at the centre of their religion was supposed to have set. They probably would prefer to be worshipping Mithras rather than Jesus!
revpaul
12 July 2010 12:30AM
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